Should have a disclaimer beforehand that readers may want to keep some antidepressants handy.
This also has me wondering: if you took the top 2 picks of each team every year for the past decade and totalled the games played/points scored, how bad would it look for the Coyotes? I can't name another team that's laid an egg in the draft as frequently as them.
What's really depressing, is excepting the last few years, almost none of these guys is still with the organization. Maybe that's normal for teams, but thought I might sew a few more familiar names.
It’s crazy how if they just hit a few of those second round picks where they’d be. Even with subpar drafting it could be worse for them. It weirdly gives me hope for the future. Thanks for the amazing article Craig!
Brutal way to start my Sunday morning Craig. And thinking about the times the lottery balls have not fallen the Coyotes way made it worse.
Is there a disproportionate number of Russians in those later round gems that other teams have found? Watching Tampa and Dallas in the final may be skewing my thoughts on that topic.
Excellent read. GMBA has a task of trying to change the culture here and it is a ponderous task.
We have rookies who come here to fail, leave here and suddenly become Guy Lefluer.
We have former Guy Lefluers who come here and suddenly become busts.
We have fans who live here, kids go to school here, the food on their table comes from the life they make here and they scream against the Coyotes for the other cities teams... who don’t need fans.
It may be that life is too good here. There are too many distractions.
Nobody does it well? Perhaps because it's difficult to do and judge? So many players/picks are traded that it is tough to evaluate. They get better or worse on their new team but is that a resources to develop thing? Is it coaching, or maybe system? Probably a bit of all of that. Who knows if a player becomes what they are on the stat sheet under one coach or system versus another? No me.
I prefer to evaluate the GM's since they are responsible for putting it all together. Have a look at Tampa....damn fun to watch and wow they are filled with solid players....so much so they are where they are without their Captain(a guy readers would have loved to see AZ pick had we been able to I'm sure!)
It's pretty hard to read the more than a decade of missed opportunities and choices. It does become clear when it's all on one page the mistakes that were made over the years. It also shows the good choices that some teams made to get where they are now.
You almost have to give a pass to Maloney / Tippett year GM and scouting staffs as they did so much with so little. Much of their background material probably came from Sportsnet and its no surprise there were a lot of misses.
Thanks for putting this all on one page for depressing Monday morning reading.
Now this from the article:
Forward Jordan Martinook. Coach Rick Tocchet was not a big fan of Jordan Martinook’s game.
I never could figure out why the departed GM traded Marty for who was basically an older, less talented version of him. I still view this as perhaps the worst trade of the departed GM's career here. Interesting to infer that this trade had the blessing of Tocchet. It makes me wonder how much Tocchet values grit, physicality and board work, the exact qualities he was known for in his career.
Marty has carved out a nice career in Carolina, regular 3rd line work and once in a while 2nd line. A good locker room presence and a leader on the team. His skills have been missed. I read that Tocchet had played that he did not like shipped out over his first year, I just wonder who else was out of favor ?
I have said it before and I will say it again: Chayka's drafts seemed predicated on proving he was smarter than everyone else. Results would indicate he wasn't. Good riddance.
Is there more to the Blake Wheeler story? I always thought of it as an Eli Manning type situation where he refused to sign and have hated his guts ever since. Are the Coyotes partially to blame?
This a great article Craig. BUT I will die on the hill that I wanted Quinn Hughes at 5. His skating was so elite compared to everyone else in the draft he seemed so worth taking a chance on. I'm glad another team I liked ended up picking him. I don't think Hayton was a bad pick, and avoiding Zadina seems like a great call that most wouldn't have predicted. Hayton can hopefully be a 1C. But Hughes seems like a special player.
Should have a disclaimer beforehand that readers may want to keep some antidepressants handy.
This also has me wondering: if you took the top 2 picks of each team every year for the past decade and totalled the games played/points scored, how bad would it look for the Coyotes? I can't name another team that's laid an egg in the draft as frequently as them.
Well done Craig, the article clearly took a lot of work to complete.
If the Coyotes chose Tampa’s picks when available. They might still be playing right now.
An insightful and depressing read. Thanks Craig!
What's really depressing, is excepting the last few years, almost none of these guys is still with the organization. Maybe that's normal for teams, but thought I might sew a few more familiar names.
It's hard being a Yotes fan.
It’s crazy how if they just hit a few of those second round picks where they’d be. Even with subpar drafting it could be worse for them. It weirdly gives me hope for the future. Thanks for the amazing article Craig!
This read just get me sad thinking about all that talent we left on the draft board. Hindsight is a painful thing sometimes.
Brutal way to start my Sunday morning Craig. And thinking about the times the lottery balls have not fallen the Coyotes way made it worse.
Is there a disproportionate number of Russians in those later round gems that other teams have found? Watching Tampa and Dallas in the final may be skewing my thoughts on that topic.
Moral of the story, if you're a Coyote's second-round pick, make sure you have a college degree that you can fall back on to make a living.
Woof. That was a tough read. I hope our new GM can find late round players like he did for the Blues.
Excellent read. GMBA has a task of trying to change the culture here and it is a ponderous task.
We have rookies who come here to fail, leave here and suddenly become Guy Lefluer.
We have former Guy Lefluers who come here and suddenly become busts.
We have fans who live here, kids go to school here, the food on their table comes from the life they make here and they scream against the Coyotes for the other cities teams... who don’t need fans.
It may be that life is too good here. There are too many distractions.
GMBA. You wanted a challenge? You got it!
Have you yet introduced #GMArmy to Miss Rita?
Nobody does it well? Perhaps because it's difficult to do and judge? So many players/picks are traded that it is tough to evaluate. They get better or worse on their new team but is that a resources to develop thing? Is it coaching, or maybe system? Probably a bit of all of that. Who knows if a player becomes what they are on the stat sheet under one coach or system versus another? No me.
I prefer to evaluate the GM's since they are responsible for putting it all together. Have a look at Tampa....damn fun to watch and wow they are filled with solid players....so much so they are where they are without their Captain(a guy readers would have loved to see AZ pick had we been able to I'm sure!)
It's pretty hard to read the more than a decade of missed opportunities and choices. It does become clear when it's all on one page the mistakes that were made over the years. It also shows the good choices that some teams made to get where they are now.
You almost have to give a pass to Maloney / Tippett year GM and scouting staffs as they did so much with so little. Much of their background material probably came from Sportsnet and its no surprise there were a lot of misses.
Thanks for putting this all on one page for depressing Monday morning reading.
Now this from the article:
Forward Jordan Martinook. Coach Rick Tocchet was not a big fan of Jordan Martinook’s game.
I never could figure out why the departed GM traded Marty for who was basically an older, less talented version of him. I still view this as perhaps the worst trade of the departed GM's career here. Interesting to infer that this trade had the blessing of Tocchet. It makes me wonder how much Tocchet values grit, physicality and board work, the exact qualities he was known for in his career.
Marty has carved out a nice career in Carolina, regular 3rd line work and once in a while 2nd line. A good locker room presence and a leader on the team. His skills have been missed. I read that Tocchet had played that he did not like shipped out over his first year, I just wonder who else was out of favor ?
I have said it before and I will say it again: Chayka's drafts seemed predicated on proving he was smarter than everyone else. Results would indicate he wasn't. Good riddance.
Is there more to the Blake Wheeler story? I always thought of it as an Eli Manning type situation where he refused to sign and have hated his guts ever since. Are the Coyotes partially to blame?
This a great article Craig. BUT I will die on the hill that I wanted Quinn Hughes at 5. His skating was so elite compared to everyone else in the draft he seemed so worth taking a chance on. I'm glad another team I liked ended up picking him. I don't think Hayton was a bad pick, and avoiding Zadina seems like a great call that most wouldn't have predicted. Hayton can hopefully be a 1C. But Hughes seems like a special player.